Episode 4
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Now, to the Episode. I'm not going to go in order this time, I'm just going to list what comes to mind. My overall opinion is that this episode wasn't nearly as "edited" and biased as the first episode. In fact, I think the editors treated me pretty fairly this episode, (with a few exceptions):
- The speed dating mistake: Why did I say what I said? The short explanation: I'm an idiot. The long explanation: I'm an iiiddiiiiiiooott. If there’s one thing I learned on the show, it’s that I hate karaoke. But if there’s a second thing I learned, it’s that when I screw up, I should just accept responsibility and apologize right away. Explaining will only make things worse. What do I really think about Tristin: Tristin is a sweetheart, and besides Cher, she was the smartest girl in the house.
- My main problem with this episode is that they didn't show my positive interactions with people in the mansion. Karl called me up a few days ago and told me he was upset. I asked why, and he said, "They didn't show the time you tried to teach me to play guitar." Karl is a really cool guy, and me and him got along really well. We talked a lot at the mansion, and we still do talk. I was pretty upset too, but I know how the show works. That interaction doesn't really fit into the villain image that the producers wanted for me. Also, Joe and I ran on the weekends. Well, Joe ran, I just struggled to keep up. Joe was in a lot better shape than I was. And after we ran, we just hung out and talked. Also, I did end up going into the hot tub, but only when I wasn't super-tired and/or studying for elimination. Josh and I had some "kindred spirit" moments too, times where we'd both feel the same way about something. And he'd make a comment, and I'd commiserate. For example, both Josh and I were going to die from anxiety before the karaoke competition. And, one thing they didn't even tape, was the van rides... girls were in one van, guys were in another. Us guys had a great time just joking around. On the ride over to the karaoke competition we sang every song we knew.
- My other problem with the editing was that I know I said some nice stuff about people, both to other cast members and in the interviews/confessionals, but none of it made it to the final show. I know I said nice things about Tristin, but all you see is my mistakes. I remember specifically saying that Tyson was very genuine and had a good heart, but that didn't make it in either.
- The makeover. The reason I put my head on Tristin's shoulder after Mike announced the challenge was that he said there was going to be waxing. When Tristin heard this, her eyes lit up like a Reggae band on April 2oth. I knew I was in for it. Although Tristin gave the orders, I gave the stylist some input too. During the makeover, I just told the hairstylist to do whatever she wanted, and that I trusted her judgement. She knows what kind of haircut works for my head. It took me a few days to realize that it looked good. The eyebrows was another story. I said the same thing to the aesthetician: "take off whatever you think is best. You're the expert on how eyebrows should look. But please, please bear in mind this one thing -- do not take off too much. Eyebrows should be manly. I do not want to look like the Gotti brothers." So she does her thing, and it looks good -- nice and cleaned up, and well balanced. I say, "Great job." Just then, one of the producers comes in and tells the aesthetician that the director wants her to take more off my eyebrows. He said I didn't look different enough. I was upset... I didn't want the director deciding how my eyebrows should be waxed. What does he know about it?
- The rest of speed dating: The "prostitution" commentary... We were at a restaurant called "the Geisha House." And I had taken a history class on the subject of prostitution. I thought it was fair game for conversation. Anyways, I think the girls we "dated" were pretty cold. I'm not Dave Chappelle, but I said a few funny things and I got no love in return. Oh, I was glad they showed that I was a psych major.
- I think we all kinda knew Wes was going to win. We were judged on three criteria, and one of them was appearance. Unless I did amazingly awesome, I was going to lose. I was kinda upset, because I didn't feel like I had a legitimate chance at winning the karaoke or the speed dating challenge. Also, Wes went before us, so he was the standard of comparison.
- Getting eliminated. I felt okay. It's funny, because if I had been eliminated any earlier, I would have felt crappy. First, I was feeling really bad about hurting Tristin's feelings. I made a comment on the show which summarizes how I felt: "Once I realized I screwed up with Tristin, I couldn't have cared less if they sent me to elminination room. I wasn't even thinking about that." Even though we had made up, I still felt emotionally drained. Also, I didn't feel bad about elimination because Tristin and I had already survived two trips to the elimination room. And Josh and Cher got all their questions right. When I got home, I looked up Cher on the internet and found out that she was a genius. Plus, there's a certain element of luck in there. I knew both of Josh's questions, but I didn't get those questions. So I didn't feel so bad... what could we do?
- I didn't blame Wes. I would have picked the same two couples if I were in his shoes.
- Lastly, I'd like to apologize to Tristin publicly, for marring our exit video with clips of me flexing. To the editors: That was a cheap shot. No need to cut pictures of my scrawny body into our goodbye montage.
- Okay, one more thing. We filmed this before the marketing for the film, Casanova, started.
- Alright, one more thing: People keep asking what I learned from the experience. It’s not about what I learned, it’s about how I grew. I grew as a person, because I’ve become stronger and more sensitive all at the same time. Just imagine how much you would grow if you were put in a strange environment, with fifteen strangers, being watched by 5 million people, all the while competing for 100 grand. Us geeks are good at learning, and a lot of us know who we want to be. The show helps us to become that person.
Overall, I felt like the first few episodes were really skewed, and this, by comparison, gave a somewhat fair portrayal of the events and people involved.


46 Comments:
- Dude, the speed dating "mistake"... what more can be said? you screwed up, but you manned up to it later. i hope you still keep in touch with Tristin, she seemed to be one of the genuine ones in the house. The rest of the speed dating... the masters in bow hunting? putting stickers on fruitss? fucking brilliant. too bad the girls that you had to date were completely oblivious to humor.
- It is a shame that producers and editors assign "roles" to each of you guys and edit the shows that will skew the public's opinions... but that's reality TV.
- How did you end up so shiny after the makeover? in any case, although Wes was "transformed" into a hunk (although the rumors on the internet suggests that he didn't even audition for the show, but was picked by a casting producer and asked Wes to geek it up), the guy I thought that made the biggest transformation was Karl. But speaking of the makeovers, do you know if everyone is still keeping their new looks?
- Since you brought up Cher, did anyone know that she was a triple major during your stay at the house? When you grilled people during the first episode and asked about college and majors and such, what did Cher say? Also, did any of you get into some serious, thought provoking discussions with the beauties during your time, or was it all inane convo's?
Hey Chris!
Glad you learned something from your time on BATG. While it makes fun watching, I like the idea that people might actually be learning something about themselves and human interactions.
I don't know if you ever check in on the WB Talk Forum for BATG, but there are a couple of threads ("Favorite Quote" and "Chris' Masters in Bow Hunting") that would be good strokes for your ego. From those, I'd say a lot of viewers get your humor and really love it!
I love your blog Chris!
Thanks for calling me a genius, however sarcastic it was, it still touched my heart!
BTW, Chris, Lothario was actually a very good guess on the 18th century Italian adventurer who loved/left women. Lothario is an Italian name, it's from a play by Nicholas Rowe (died 1718), and he's a seducer, very much like Casanova. So, right ballpark anyway!
Normally, hearing people use 'Wikipedia' in their sentences as if it were punctuation grates on me, but not today. Look who I found!
You are my favourite, and that's all I have to say about that, poor editing or not. You are a hoot and you're cute. A Cute Hoot, if you will.
Oh yes, who knows the answer to why women, or producers, feel the need to wax a man to make him improved? Men should be hairy. Mmm mmm, hairy men.
Take care.
Chris --
You still didn't answer my question, of who (particularly Tristin), if any of the other cast members you stayed in touch with, if at all.
And my girlfriend, a fellow beauty, pointed out to me that she knew Cher was just a geek in disguise. Thanks for proving her right.
-Khan
http://rottentomatoes.com/vine/j/akhan41
Mmmhm, Cheryl was not the typical WB beauty for the show. I read a paper she wrote a few days ago, that girl is NOT a ditz. Anyway, every show needs a villian, and like you said WB just wanted to portray the things you did wrong... I think they only air the most dramatic parts/relationships in the mansion. Cause that stuff is what sells right? =/
About Wes, I heard something about what Domonas said too. I've actually seen a picture of him with his girlfriend...How odd right?
:] Anyway, I enjoyed reading your entry :)
thanks for the insight on this show man. i'd really like to know how the audition process went to determine "geeks" and "beauties" though. Cher is DEFINITELY not dumb. And Wes? Come on, now!
Girls want boyfriends with SKILLS...nunchaku skills, bowhunting skills...
Yeah, I laughed my ASS off, and all that girl said was "oh, can you bring me a deer?" /palmface
I was so happy for you guys, watching how the girls reacted to you after the makeovers. Even though girls like me like the pre-makeover looks, my heart was full for you guys when I saw all of your reactions to the positive reactions. I especially felt happy for Josh.
You were seriously the funniest person they showed, and that was even after the evil editing. I knew I would love watching you the second I heard you read that card while wearing your "stud in study" shirt. Pretty much you rule the internet. I don't so much think you were evil so much as "wicked funny". lol
Will you be going to the san diego comicon? I'm hoping to see my aunt while I'm down there and maybe check out her shop. Heck, maybe I can pick up a tee shirt while I'm down there ^_^
Hey Chris, nice blog. I was so sad to see you go. You were my favorite geek on the show! Keep on truckin' baby.
chris. . . how much would i have to pay you to make me a shirt that says, "i put the ass & tts in massachusetts"? it should probably be a long-sleever. boston is cold.
domonas: i don't really blame the producers. they gotta get ratings, it's their job. most people don't believe everything they see. I don't know if everyone is keeping their looks. I know karl does, and I know ankur doesn't. that's about it. Yeah, in the "interrogation" I asked Cher, and she was honest but she tried to play it off like it was no biggie. I don't think that gave her away. What really gave her away was her speech, which was a lot better than the rest of the speeches. I didn't really get a chance to talk to the beauties for a long period of time, because I was studying a lot, or us guys were separated from the ladies.
glover: Thanks. Yeah, I saw that. I'm kinda glad not everyone thinks I'm funny... it's good to be unique.
cher: it wasn't sarcastic. perhaps slightly hyperbolic, but not sarcastic.
glover (again): Yeah, right after I got it wrong, Josh actually told me that he would have guessed Lothario too.
allison: hey allison. thanks. One of the things I said after I got waxed was "I look like a twelve year old boy!" The other thing I said was: "A man without chest hair is like a lion without a mane." Anyways, you seem to like hair A LOT, so I'm going to have to recommend Ankur.
khan: Hey Khan. Sorry, I didn't see that question. I keep in touch with everyone, some more than others though. Some by mass emails, some by personal emails, some by aim and some by phone calls. Tristin and I keep in touch by email. She's real cool about the show, and she doesn't take it too seriously. The thing is that in the mansion, it's realllly stressful, and dramatic, and emotional, but when you get away from it, you realize that it's just a reality show.
Christina: I really don't know Wes's whole story. I met him at the mansion and we got along. I really don't know about his personal relationships, his past, or his interviews/auditions. It's not good to express an opinion about someone unless you know the whole story. All I know is that we got along in the mansion.
julia: I haven't been to the comicon in years, but a lot of my friends go. I might go. If I don't, you can ask your auntie to buy a shirt from me, then you can pay her.
anon: thanks!
blissee: ehh, the "tts" part is a little too vulgar for my tastes. the "ass" might be okay, it just seems a little less vulgar than the other one, and guys could wear it too.
Oh well. I must say that you had me pretty pissed, although I know how the whole editing thing goes (I watch VH1! lol!) so I'm sure you're a really great guy! You've shown that here. Although I must say that xanga freakin rocks! xanga.com/seremela_telemnar
My only concern Chris is were they able to re-attach your nipple? God, I hope so.
And I liked the stickers on fruit joke. But I think that comment cost you alot of fans who actually work in the produce sections across America. WHAT were you thinking? ;)
anon: I tried xanga. it doesn't allow for anonymous comments, like the one you just left. blogspot is the place.
shanda: actually, they couldn't reattach it. i just draw it on now.
No matter what , you are an idiot!
But I am glad that you apologized to her, do u still keep in touch with her?
Sorry I gave the impression that I wasn't one of the girls who abuse Tyson. I am... right in the middle of it. :) Let's see... some of the things we do... put a star cushion on his head and take picture of him? Randomly throw stuff at him? Constantly make fun of his not-getting-a-girlfriend? Make him do random stuff for our entertainment? I know I know... all relatively childish and silly and mild. We tried our best to teach him the way of women through the hard way...
So are you going to keep commentating the show?
yeah you're hilarious
> Explaining will only make things worse. What do I really think about Tristin: Tristin is a sweetheart, and besides Cher, she was the smartest girl in the house.
Dude, look what you just did. You just put down 6 or possibly 7 girls. Don't do this.
Favorite quote of this episode:
"Dating?!, you might as well punch yourself in the crocth and throw away 50 dollars" that had me rolling on the floor in hysterics.
Also, what you said about Cher being a genius,and then Cher commented that it was sarcastic, I dont see how that is sarcastic???
Out of curiosity, besides Tyson, Cher, Josh's friend, and Shawn from season 1, do you know anyone else that blogs?
For those that don't know...
Tyson
http://www.xanga.com/FiddleTFM
Josh's Friend
http://farnex.blogspot.com/
Cher
http://www.xanga.com/CherylTenbush
Shawn from season 1
http://www.shawnbakken.com/
I'm missing Karl's blog there
http://kmachiavelli.blogspot.com/
And viv: you women are soooo mean, poor Tyson ;P
Chris, thanks for visiting my blog. Sorry if I seem hard on you, I report happens on the show, so if the show protrays you a certain way that is what I write. I realize that the show is HEAVILY edited. If you put the Pope, Mother Teresa, Ghandi, and the Dali Lhama in house together I bet you could still make one of them appear as a jerk. I try to give my report then my own personal views later.
I would love to get my hands on ALL he footage and reedit it to change everyones roles around. I love Tyson but we could make him the Jerk, you the nervous one, Josh as the quiet one, Karl as the stud, The results would still be the same but it would be interesting.
I wish you luck with your cards and shirts business endevour.
hey chris! omg, i love beauty and the geek. one of the best reality tv shows. what have you been doing ever since the show ended?
What kind of things did you do in the house? It seems like it might get pretty boring trapped in the house all of the time.
I think it is completely awesome that you set the record straight after you were misrepresented. You have guts to speak what's on your mind while being taped.
P.S. I found your comments during speed dating hilarious. I've gone through that (self inflicted) torture myself. One of the guys remarked, "Since you don't do anything fun, your life must be pretty boring." How sweet...
chris --
dude -- do you have to publish everyone's post? i'd highly recommend you edit. i mean, really.
you know who this is.
joanne: yeah, me and Tris still talk
viv: shame on you for abusing him. now i understand why he was upset about the beauties havin bfs.
Anon2:
I really don't think you understand the dynamics of the mansion. Each of us had a strong bond with our partner, and this is my way of supporting her. It's like when a couple gets married, the husbands says his wife is the most beautiful woman in the world. Now, personally, I think my sisters are the most beautiful women in the world. But am I insulted when the husband says this? Absolutely not. All of the Geeks and Beauties would respect what I said, even though each Geek thinks his beauty is the smartest.
Alice: Thanks Alice...it wasn't sarcastic, just slightly hyperbolic.
domonas: I don't know of any other blogs.
Farnex: No worries. I just thought you might be interested. I don't mind the insults... it builds character.
donna: I've been selling t-shirts, and trying to get a PHD in bowhunting.
Anon3: Yeah, we got housesick, but they did keep us really busy on the weekdays. On the weekends, they got us movies, boardgames, etc.
Michelle: thanks... and that was only five minutes! ; -)
Anon4: Actually, i don't know who this is. send me a message via myspace or something.
alex: after I told him about your comment, his words were "but you're not mean to me!" :)
chris: heh, wait, what does our abusing him have anything to do with his being upset about beauties having bfs? I think I missed the connection there... not to mention that I don't think he's actually upset about beauties having bfs. :) and oh, sorry to use your blog to reply to someone else.
you gonna continue this blog even though you're out of the house (on screen)?
hey, just popping in to say that i received my t-shirt yesterday. thank you! it is nifty & quite soft. good luck to you! :)
viv: yeah, i know, i was just teasing :)
*points the ';P' smilie
hi chris!
you and tristin were my fav team. i was rooting for you guys. i was wondering if you and tristin talk to cher and if cher is really as mean as she is depicted on the show?
What happend after you guys were eliminated? Did you get to go home or were you sequestered until filming was over? How long were you in the house and how long was filming?
Hey Chris. Just wanted to say I love your witty shirts...I say you venture further into underwear and booty shorts, because I'd totally buy it.
I think sexy geek girls and boys would love wearing witty things in bed...plus I haven't seen anything like that around. "Fuck Victoria's Secret...Geekfitter Undies are in."
By the way, I saw your MySpace via the Karl fanclub (I get all the screencaps on that thing)...and I just wanted to say...we're parka twins! Classy man.
Hey Chris! You should keep updating your blog. Matter o fact, you shoud be a comedy writer or somethin' :p The show (B&G2) seems so boring without your team.
p.s.
You have very strong eyebrows...I love them, suga! Hairy guys are great. You and Ankur are the epitome of fine young men.
Peace.
The speed dating comment was really 'alpha'. Props for having the balls to say something like that.
- Paul Simon
Hey, Chris,
I was disappointed the way that you hurt Tristin. But that should give you a signal. If you can hurt a woman that deeply, it means you can touch her deeply in other ways.
If you are still in contact with Tristin, GO FOR IT. First, get her into a wedding dress. Then, get her out of it.
Chris
chris(at)chrisbaker(dot)net
C'mon Chris, keep commenting! =)
Chris, I keep visiting to see what you post and feel like I am getting the stiff. J/K Where are you and why have you left us? We miss you. I am not sure what your dating status was before the show but wonder if it has improved since? Care to share? Or maybe you're not allowed after signing your life away until the show is over.
I know these are silly but I thought of some shirt sayings.
For the caucasian geek:
Geeks
The Other White Meat
For Cannibals:
Humans
They're whats for Dinner
viv: ehh... well, it's tough to explain the connection. I'm just gonna let it rest.
domo: yes, I will continue the blog. I won't really do much episode recaps. I wasn't in the house, so I don't know the whole story. I don't want to comment on something when I don't know the full story.
allison: thanks! the one you got was ringspun and combed cotton, which makes it really soft. all new shirts I buy will be like that.
cadee: i don't know if tristin and cher talk. cher IMs me sometimes. I think that cher was depicted pretty accurately. So if you didn't like her, then that's probably how you would feel if you met her in person.
anon: we got sent right out the front door, and then we got a flight home the next day (I got a train ride). They filmed for a month, and I was in the house for two weeks.
mary: thanks. your dolls are pretty sweet. I'm not a big fan of booty shorts in public. underwear... it could happen...let's start with shirts and see how it goes! I can't find karl's fanblog. the parka: so you're a mod kid, eh?
annie: it's funny you said that. you should watch the reality remix show that I was on. I'd like to be a little less hairy actually.
anon2: alpha? is that a british term for cool?
anon3: Thanks for the kind sentiments man. I'm guessing maybe you have a crush on her, eh? I like the fact that you talked about marriage before sex... that's how I view sex too.
shannda: I flew to LA this week as well as researching t-shirt companies! I've been getting a lot more attention from women. But, to be honest, I'm just not that motivated to go out. Now would probably be the best time to go out and meet girls and date, but I just really lack the desire... it takes a lot of effort. P. S. those are clever ideas... a friend and I came up with something similar to the "other white geek" one you mentioned.
British? Not at all. Alpha = Alpha male.
- Paul Simon
I'm glad you like my dolls. The MCR guys dig it so much they get me into their shows for free. A mod kid?! Damnit, you caught me. :( But that must mean you're a mod kid too, even if at heart.
Hey, Chris,
Yes, I did think Tristin was quite cute. It was just a shame to see her hurting. Plus, it really stunk that you guys kept getting picked for elimination.
I've actually only seen a few episodes. I watch very little television, but have developed a soft spot for B&TG.
I think most of the guys watching this show are hoping that something happens. Be a man and make it happen.
Chris
chris(at)chrisbaker(dot)net
omg that link was a shock... seriously.. cheryl wrote that? wow thats a bit unfair for the others dont u think~!
hahaha
Just saw the show for a couple of weeks ago on danish television.
I dont usually watch reality shows but this show is an exception.
It was a show with some kind of moral. It was actually fun watching.
It is nice to get some background information as to how it was to be on the show etc.
The one where you guys had to design a room, where you getting any kind of professionel help or something ?
I think many of the rooms were really cool and the way the geeks were exposed you got the impression that you were only capable of using your brains.
Btw it is a shame that it is not possible to ship geekfitters shirts to Denmark
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